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if you have a state machine with both `time out` and `manually executable`, will it still progress a

UKGT7RC7P
UKGT7RC7P Posts: 538 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet
edited June 2020 in Help

if you have a state machine with both time out and manually executable, will it still progress automatically? (and both timeout and manual are dependent on any condition I guess)

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  • UKJND3A3H
    UKJND3A3H Posts: 123 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    to my believe it does.

  • UKJND3A3H
    UKJND3A3H Posts: 123 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    you can still have it manually executable to skip timeout imo. not sure if that’s always a good idea…

  • UKGT7RC7P
    UKGT7RC7P Posts: 538 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet
    edited June 2020

    makes sense if you have something that would otherwise poll every x hours, but you want to override it and make it poll now

  • UKJND3A3H
    UKJND3A3H Posts: 123 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    in combination with a condition? yep

  • UKGT7RC7P
    UKGT7RC7P Posts: 538 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    yes exactly

  • UKJND3A3H
    UKJND3A3H Posts: 123 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    best though: try it out? 😇 defining timeout to 1m, add condition and manual and see what is supported and what not

  • UKGT7RC7P
    UKGT7RC7P Posts: 538 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    yes yes, i'm being lazy 😄

  • UKGT7RC7P
    UKGT7RC7P Posts: 538 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet
    edited June 2020

    also we noticed it "not working" just now, but would need to investigate more

  • UKGT7RC7P
    UKGT7RC7P Posts: 538 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    also 1m is a long time in dev cycles

  • UKJND3A3H
    UKJND3A3H Posts: 123 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    I think it’s not supporting 1s as a setting though 😇

  • Andriy Netseplyayev
    Andriy Netseplyayev Domain Lead Solution Architecture Sprykee Posts: 519 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    not sure I understood how condition is relevant here, but timeout and manual do work for the same event. To have an option “not to wait”. Although I never investigated, what happens with timeout entry in DB after you moved the item manually. I guess cron-job will try to process it and skip/remove since it’s not actual any more..

  • giovanni.piemontese
    giovanni.piemontese Technical Lead @ Löffelhardt Spryker Solution Partner Posts: 871 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    yes.. u can have condition with timeout and the same time with manually flag and it is working..

  • UKJND3A3H
    UKJND3A3H Posts: 123 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    but is timeout plus condition actually leading to “polling”? meaning: if condition fails and there is no else case, state would stay same. would there be another timeout after configured period? 🤔 I like the idea, but not sure that this is the case with current spryker OMS

  • giovanni.piemontese
    giovanni.piemontese Technical Lead @ Löffelhardt Spryker Solution Partner Posts: 871 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    just as example.. we use a lot of cycle in state machine.. of course u need an else state etc... take a look in the example....

  • UKJND3A3H
    UKJND3A3H Posts: 123 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    👍

  • Andriy Netseplyayev
    Andriy Netseplyayev Domain Lead Solution Architecture Sprykee Posts: 519 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet
    edited June 2020

    ah this! Yeah, looks familiar to me too, exactly for similar cases. Although we concluded on the project that re-sending the same request multiple times if it fails makes little sense. Rather communicating with “middleware”, then they find/fix the issue and then we manually retry the transition when they’re done

  • Andriy Netseplyayev
    Andriy Netseplyayev Domain Lead Solution Architecture Sprykee Posts: 519 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    which means the same schema but w/o timeout

  • UKGT7RC7P
    UKGT7RC7P Posts: 538 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    our specific case is less about failure retry, but polling an external system for changes

  • Andriy Netseplyayev
    Andriy Netseplyayev Domain Lead Solution Architecture Sprykee Posts: 519 🧑🏻‍🚀 - Cadet

    yes, this is a good use-case 👍

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